It's the assumption that if people don't think free-will exists that they will get depressed, or that they will act out because "now there are no consequences."
Thing is, in a society that actually functioned and centered laws based on determinism arguments, you would never blame a person for doing or participating in a negative action, b…
It's the assumption that if people don't think free-will exists that they will get depressed, or that they will act out because "now there are no consequences."
Thing is, in a society that actually functioned and centered laws based on determinism arguments, you would never blame a person for doing or participating in a negative action, but you logically would do what you can to stop them.*
Making bad choices would be considered an illness. A problem of their mind for whatever reason (especially things like hormones, chemicals, past experience, trauma etc) is causing them to arrive at a incorrect conclusion. If the problem can't be addressed via simply informing them that they cause harm, then you would quarantine humanely an individual who is truly engaging in dangerous abhorrent behavior. You wouldn't punish them, you would simply remove their ability to engage in the behavior in order to save others from consequences of another's arrived upon actions.
I fully disagree with people who say that we shouldn't tell others free-will doesn't exist. I also think we should properly explain the difference between determinism and fatalism. Which is the idea that nothing is in your control, it's in the hands of something else that has purpose, desire or plan.
Determinism is there is no plan. The universe isn't conscious or has purpose. That everything is cause and effect and little reactions can change the cascade of any possible action.
We're not in control of that process, we simply experience it. We also can never have enough information to perfectly predict what will happen via this set chain of events from whenever the big bang happened. But there is a possibility that we can get close, at least with certain outcomes. Which is something we try to do all the time to understand our world, to know what reactions are caused by what actions. From weather to lab experiments to medicine.
It's the assumption that if people don't think free-will exists that they will get depressed, or that they will act out because "now there are no consequences."
Thing is, in a society that actually functioned and centered laws based on determinism arguments, you would never blame a person for doing or participating in a negative action, but you logically would do what you can to stop them.*
Making bad choices would be considered an illness. A problem of their mind for whatever reason (especially things like hormones, chemicals, past experience, trauma etc) is causing them to arrive at a incorrect conclusion. If the problem can't be addressed via simply informing them that they cause harm, then you would quarantine humanely an individual who is truly engaging in dangerous abhorrent behavior. You wouldn't punish them, you would simply remove their ability to engage in the behavior in order to save others from consequences of another's arrived upon actions.
I fully disagree with people who say that we shouldn't tell others free-will doesn't exist. I also think we should properly explain the difference between determinism and fatalism. Which is the idea that nothing is in your control, it's in the hands of something else that has purpose, desire or plan.
Determinism is there is no plan. The universe isn't conscious or has purpose. That everything is cause and effect and little reactions can change the cascade of any possible action.
We're not in control of that process, we simply experience it. We also can never have enough information to perfectly predict what will happen via this set chain of events from whenever the big bang happened. But there is a possibility that we can get close, at least with certain outcomes. Which is something we try to do all the time to understand our world, to know what reactions are caused by what actions. From weather to lab experiments to medicine.