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SolarxPvP's avatar

I remember reading your original paper on this, and I would take the strong position that we shouldn’t even shut down people we think are liars. The standard orthodoxy among the left is that most right wing pundits are grifters. This means they lie to their audiences to have a career as a pundit.

Hilariously, after I read your paper for the first time, I vividly recall immediately reading a thread on Twitter where someone called a right wing commentator a grifter.

I actually think they’re often right. I don’t know if most are grifters, but at least a substantial minority probably are. Many of them are too politically informed or even high enough in IQ to not notice how terrible Trump is, yet many seem to love him. I think it’s a bigger problem on the right than the left. The Republican base is a cult of personality around Trump in a way the Democrat base isn’t for any politician currently, so it pays to defend him at all costs, even if blatantly inconsistent with your previous statements. They also have frequent character-related scandals independent of politics. Further, the norm of grifting that Trump creates by himself being a grifter doesn’t help. Check out the Twitter account @thiss_you, which does a great job at exposing inconsistencies among popular conservatives on Twitter. https://x.com/thiss_youu?s=21

However, I still think it’s a bad idea to censor people we perceive as liars. That would effectively mean banning a significant amount of conservative commentators, and we simply can’t trust organizations to honestly or rationally determine who’s a liar and who’s not. They have no incentive to do so.

A similar point can be made about insults, as your own post refers to when it discusses woke people. Anyone put in charge of censoring “insults” simply can’t be trusted in most contexts. They’ll censor conservative ideas because they perceive them as insulting.

DavesNotHere's avatar

Censorship seems like a good solution to people who think that it’s too much trouble to understand the real issue and so prefer to just repeat the dominant ideas of their culture. Unfortunately, if everyone does that, it leaves culture vulnerable to error and groupthink.

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