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Jólnir Thórkell's avatar

I'm sorry but... what's the point of this? Sounds like a young sceptic talking about something we already know.

Ridiculing the ancients for not knowing about modern findings and methods is ultimate childishness, and I'm pretty sure all of this was refuted way long ago. "Why was this theory so popular?" Like, was there anything else? Jeez.

It's because some people started to question the nature of the universe all those centuries back that we have these new explanations, duh.

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Sebastian Garren's avatar

This is very wrong-headed. Allow me to demonstrate and answer each of your specific objections.

1) You say that trees are "carbon-based" and that the water cannot account for that. But carbon itself could be water-based. As a spread out water, carbon is lighter and thus able to float on water. This fits our experience.

2) You claim that the tree matter comes from air, because the air is made of carbon. But since I've already shown that carbon could be made of water, isn't your objection defeated? No, sadly. Air is lighter than water and this implies that water can extenuated into air. Thus air is the base element for earth and water.

3) Then you bring up fire. Fire goes up and earth remains. Where does the fire go? It goes where you'd think: into the air. The heat given off is a temporary energy, which dissipates. But the matter of fire, is air escaping earth. Since we are jumping from earth to air and mostly bypassing water when we burn things, the change is not gradual and generates heat. (Although, I've heard tell of a distant Albion philosopher named "Faraday", likely a pun on the word "Faraway", who showed that a little bit of water comes from fire too and not only stale air.)

4) In any case, while mysteries of air remain to be explored, all the evidence you present is considtent with air being the fundamental element.

I stand with Anaximenes.

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