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UndeservingPorcupine's avatar

Mmm. I think you’re too quick on your first two points. It’s a gray area here. The DNC and RNC are very much a part of the government in any conventional sense, and they’re intricately tied to their candidates’ campaigns. When Congress can and do call up the board of social media companies to question and threaten them about their content, the government/private divide gets messy.

Consider this analogy. There’s a local sheriff election, and for whatever reason, it’s a heated race with lots of social media chatter. Suppose the cops who support candidate A get their spouses to monitor social media for private citizen’s posts in favor of candidate B, and those spouses then call the post owners and say “hi, I’m married to officer Blah who supports A, and I’d like to request you remove your post in favor of B. It’s just a request. Did I mention my husband patrols the area your restaurant is located? Anyway, just a request. Also, I play tennis with the health inspector. Bye” Suppose also these same cops have a history of letting personal vendettas influence their performance in service of certain citizens.

First amendment issue? It’s at least arguable.

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DavesNotHere's avatar

The time travel thought experiment is inappropriate. As is common with misleading thought experiments, it assumes knowledge that people do not actually have. Even traveling through time, which is impossible, only gives you complete certainty about one counterfactual, the scenario where no intervention is made (or strictly, only those actually made in history). No one ever has even that much certain information, and that doesn’t give you certainty about whether a specific speech was critical to Hitler's rise. Maybe suppressing that particular speech will backfire, via a pre-internet Streisand effect. Consequentialism can argue for both sides of most disputes, depending on how you estimate the probabilities. Dealing with risk instead of certainty changes the calculation profoundly. And we are almost always dealing with risk.

A better thought experiment would not add inappropriate certainty, and demonstrate that we still might want to suppress speech without that certainty. I am biased, so I find it difficult to think of one.

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