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DavesNotHere's avatar

Sense data, and all data, are information. As such, they only exist as an interpretable pattern in some physical medium. If I can have information in my mind or brain without harming myself, I can have sense data in my mind or brain. So arguing as if sense data must consist of distinct physical objects seems odd.

Maybe I am misframing this. Maybe data consist of the electrical charge in a circuit, or the dimple in a DVD, or the electrochemical state of my brain cells, and so in some sense they are physical objects. But if so, sense data are not distinct from my brain. I suppose we can think of my brain as just as dynamic as my thoughts and perceptions. But new perceptions don’t require more space.

Did Hume and the other theorists of sense data distinguish them from other sorts of data that we gain awareness of, interpret, and learn from? Or is all data sense data? Does this argument apply to all data, so we should conclude that datum is an incoherent category?

I clearly don’t really understand the point here. I need to think about this a lot more before I can understand well enough to agree or disagree. Maybe I have not read carefully enough. But the argument from limited space is wrong, unless I missed something big.

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Paz's avatar

sense data approach wrong for 2. and 3. 2 -> because there is no mind-body problem, there's just the body. 3 -> because an object doesn't need to have the exact features it appears to have. our vision (like any other sense) evolved to take physical inputs and probabilistically work (ie, help our chances at surviving without too much cost to other systems/features).

i don't understand the need for the indeterminacy approach, though. not getting it as well as I have with other posts. thanks for sharing!

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