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Michael Pelczar's avatar

Two thoughts on this.

(1) The second premise of the Humean argument against moral realism is dubious, independent of issues related to the Humean theory of motivation. It seems to me (and I argue for this on pp. 35-36 of "The knowledge argument, the open question argument, and the moral problem") that part of what we mean when we say, e.g., "So-and-so believes that X is wrong" is that so-and-so has a desire that X not happen (which is compatible with so-and-so's also having a desire that X happen). Thus when we say "So-and-so believes that X is wrong," we say something about so-and-so's motives (or motivating reasons), even if the content of the belief we attribute to so-and-so (=the proposition that X is wrong) is just an empirical fact, e.g. that X fails to maximize utility. (So, no need to posit mystical "magnetic" facts belief in which somehow compels one to have certain motives---we can be moral realists without going in for that.)

(2) I thought the main idea behind Humean theories of free will was that to act freely (in whatever sense acting freely is necessary for doing something for which you're morally responsible) it's enough if you intentionally bring about some harm or benefit (e.g., do some harm by acting on an intention to do harm---shark attacks don't count, since when the shark snacks on the surfer, the shark's intention is to fill its belly, not harm the surfer). True, the fact that you have and act on whatever intentions you do is a consequence of things over which you have no control (at least, if we live in a deterministic universe), but Humeans say that doesn't matter: if you routinely act on harmful desires, that just shows that factors beyond your control have made you a morally shitty person. I think there are problems with this account of freedom (for one thing, it seems to me that most of the harm human beings do results from their acting on intentions to benefit themselves rather than to harm others---thieves wouldn't mind, and in fact would probably prefer it, if the stuff they stole got magically replaced by indistinguishable stuff before the theft was discovered). But I don't think the Humean theory of motivation excludes free will. At least, I don't see how free will is harder to make sense of given the Humean theory than given e.g. ethical intuitionism. If determinism is true, then your having and acting on the ethical intuitions you do is also a result of factors over which you have no control.

John Ketchum's avatar

Your motivating-reason vs. normative-reason distinction seems to illuminate something about political disagreement that I haven’t seen stated this clearly. Most ideological commitments look like motivating reasons—identity, coalition maintenance, emotional salience—while political philosophy aims at normative reasons that justify principles independently of psychology. That would explain why ideological disputes seldom converge even when the normative arguments seem straightforward. Do you think ideology ever tracks normative reasons directly, or is it almost entirely a motivating-reason phenomenon?

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