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David Friedman's avatar

Two points:

1. You are offering a cartoon version of a religious believer. Quite a lot of them would say that their religious beliefs are consistent with, perhaps based on, rational thinking. Some would argue that it is the atheists who are basing their views on blind faith. I'm not sure the fraction of serious religious believers who engage in rational thought in other context is lower than the fraction of atheists who do — do you have any data on the subject?

2. One basis for your argument is moral principle, another is consequences. My guess is that the consequences of what you propose, even in European countries, would be negative and serious. You don't have the option of enforcing the rule "parents must teach their children truth and not falsehood," which is what you are arguing for, because it requires a mechanism to determine truth. In practice your rule is something like "parents must teach people what the legal authorities believe is truth and not what they believe is falsehood," which strikes me as a very bad policy.

Do you disagree?

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Max's avatar

If your four year old child notices you a little upset when you hear that the minimum wage in your state is being raised again, and asks you why you seem annoyed, if you explain its effects on unemployment without saying that there are a minority of economists who think minimum wage laws could be helpful, would this constitute a type of economic indoctrination since there’s no way to have absolute certainty on these issues despite what some Austrian economists would say?

The way you wrote this post, you came off as implying that unless you teach agnosticism to children, this is religious indoctrination. Given Alvin Plantinga, David Bentley Hart, Alexander Pruss and many many others’ arguments for the reasonableness of religion, I doubt few academics who have read them would say that religious belief is utterly irrational even if it may, in the end, be false.

Should a Muslim parent not be able to tell their children, “there is one God and Muhammed is His Prophet,” or a Christian tell their children, “God became human so that humans might become God,” or a Hindu tell their children, “Atman is Brahman” without constantly having to qualify such statements?

Can a parent raise a child based on knowledge they believe they have rather than certainty? We can have no certainty that ethical intuitionism is true, or veganism is true, and yet you think we can have knowledge of such things. Will you have your child participate in your veganism or will you make sure to buy them some factory farmed meat to eat along with their Gardein?

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